I deposited $250 at the casino, then placed sports bets, winning 12, losing six, and losing two. Of these bets, there were also two doubles and four bets on the World Championship. A few days ago, I placed a $602 withdrawal. The withdrawal was immediately approved, but the funds didn't appear in my wallet for several hours. I contacted support, who informed me that their provider had decided to cancel my bets because they were placed on a weak line. What was the line's weakness? Are you retroactively deciding what's weak and what isn't? I bet on what I wanted, and you suggest I bet on it. Please note that this complaint only appeared after I submitted the withdrawal request, suggesting that the casino apparently simply doesn't want to pay out, citing the provider's fault. I immediately warned the casino that I would withdraw my deposit as they suggested, but then I would start filing disputes on resources I knew. Especially since when I checked the same Bitcointalk, I was surprised to find several identical complaints from other users. A dubious coincidence, don't you think? I'm attaching screenshots of the correspondence and my bets.

Login: leparda

So whatever lines we win on can be termed as 'weak' and they will easily confiscate both deposit +winnings ??

This is some absolute BS happening on these new sites.

We dont see these type of things happen ever on sites like stake,shuffle etc. No wonder they are the industry leaders now.

Pretty obvious these new books dont want to payout any winnings and just there to take in deposits. Disgusting behaviour

Let's hear what their REP has to say about all this as I like to see both sides to a story. If your version is correct, then negative trust is warranted but let's not go there yet. Degencom could you pop in and give us your version, thx.

Quote from: leparda on July 07, 2026, 05:30:43 PM

I believe this is your case on CH: https://contesthunters.com/disputes/13 ? As you've escalate there, let's move it there and return here once things reached bottom, it will be rather exhausting to have two simultaneous platform to solve one exact case. I'll try to get Degen to reply there.

Quote from: holydarkness on July 08, 2026, 05:12:12 PM

I'll quote the most relevant parts:

Quote from: leparda on July 07, 2026, 05:30:43 PM

Quote from: rohang on Today at 11:36:20 AM

Quote from: Ronsbit on Today at 02:05:58 PM

It seems somewhat odd that the degencom account has not posted anything in this thread yet it seems as though he managed to contact AB de Royse777 and that prompted this response from him: I was notified to look into a red tag left for degencom

It is possible that the degencom account did not contact him and maybe it was another member but AB de Royse777 was ambiguous on the matter in his post therefore members will base a decision on the information available. Nevertheless, the degencom account could posted their side of the story.

Quote from: rohang on July 13, 2026, 11:36:20 AM

So whatever lines we win on can be termed as 'weak' and they will easily confiscate both deposit +winnings ??

This is some absolute BS happening on these new sites.

We dont see these type of things happen ever on sites like stake,shuffle etc. No wonder they are the industry leaders now.

Pretty obvious these new books dont want to payout any winnings and just there to take in deposits. Disgusting behaviour

Actually... "sites like Stake, shuffle, etc." uhh, Stake doesn't respond to scam accusation on this forum anymore, so pretty much all of the complaint against them, it's "we've made a call, and everyone shall obey." This is especially true to another big industry-leader casino like Betcoin who dismisses cases with response that does not open to negotiation or a room to wiggle for a mutual-understanding, of which... arguably understandable from an industry leader casino like Betcoin who have one of the cleanest record on my list. They buit their reputation not only from being here for more than a decade, but also from being casino who can prove that they're the one being wronged and the player tried to cheat them.

But I observed other casino, that's on a speed-track to "industry leader casino" through big promo on the forum, also attempted to do the same method to dismiss matter, "You do this, we have evidence for it, no, it's not for debate, end of discussion," thinking that [I strongly assume] birthed from their thought that huge marketing presence on the forum only is enough to dismiss cases without providing their own counter evidence beyond reasonable doubt.

So... yeah, these type of things happen ever on big sites because they dismiss without bothering to convince the forum, due to their big name and long-standing reputation. Question is, do same benefit-of-doubt and taking-word-at-face-value applied the same to a relatively new casino just because they hold massive marketing promo and freebies on the forum? Hold sig. campaign managed by big name?

Sorry for going OOT, just showing that reputation and benefit of doubts should not be given just because they're industry leader [or hold many promos], it should be earned through time of cooperating with each complaint and being transparent... until their words can be taken for granted.

Quote from: holydarkness on July 13, 2026, 05:18:01 PM

Quote from: rohang on July 13, 2026, 11:36:20 AM

So whatever lines we win on can be termed as 'weak' and they will easily confiscate both deposit +winnings ??

This is some absolute BS happening on these new sites.

We dont see these type of things happen ever on sites like stake,shuffle etc. No wonder they are the industry leaders now.

Pretty obvious these new books dont want to payout any winnings and just there to take in deposits. Disgusting behaviour

Actually... "sites like Stake, shuffle, etc." uhh, Stake doesn't respond to scam accusation on this forum anymore, so pretty much all of the complaint against them, it's "we've made a call, and everyone shall obey." This is especially true to another big industry-leader casino like Betcoin who dismisses cases with response that does not open to negotiation or a room to wiggle for a mutual-understanding, of which... arguably understandable from an industry leader casino like Betcoin who have one of the cleanest record on my list. They buit their reputation not only from being here for more than a decade, but also from being casino who can prove that they're the one being wronged and the player tried to cheat them.

But I observed other casino, that's on a speed-track to "industry leader casino" through big promo on the forum, also attempted to do the same method to dismiss matter, "You do this, we have evidence for it, no, it's not for debate, end of discussion," thinking that [I strongly assume] birthed from their thought that huge marketing presence on the forum only is enough to dismiss cases without providing their own counter evidence beyond reasonable doubt.

So... yeah, these type of things happen ever on big sites because they dismiss without bothering to convince the forum, due to their big name and long-standing reputation. Question is, do same benefit-of-doubt and taking-word-at-face-value applied the same to a relatively new casino just because they hold massive marketing promo and freebies on the forum? Hold sig. campaign managed by big name?

Sorry for going OOT, just showing that reputation and benefit of doubts should not be given just because they're industry leader [or hold many promos], it should be earned through time of cooperating with each complaint and being transparent... until their words can be taken for granted.

To be fair i havent seen the 'player bet on weak line' argument before, either from stake/shuffle or anyone else

Looks like a new betby thing maybe?

Perhaps the newer sites like degen etc dont have dedicated sports risk analysis/sports head honchos yet who have the knowledge and authority to over ride betby call

Now i think about it, its more likely to me its betby and casinos just going with it.
 

Quote from: JollyGood on July 14, 2026, 11:12:12 AM

Their forum representative has been posting quite extensively to promote their casino but has not posted in this thread nor the one that AB de Royse777 seemingly created to advocate on behalf of the degencom account here: Can we look into inspace feedback activities and his quick red tag to degencom?

The degencom account has not responded to the allegations in any thread below:

Degen. $601 in bets voided, deposit refunded. SCAM
Degen Casino refuses to pay 513.98 USDT Sportsbook winnings
Can we look into inspace feedback activities and his quick red tag to degencom?

They made just one post in this thread: Degen.com Confiscated My Winnings

The impression they give is that just because they are running a campaign they are beyond scrutiny. They seems to be confident in their approach especially when advocates such as AB de Royse777 jump to their defence without even addressing the conduct of the casino.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 08, 2026, 02:06:42 AM

Let's hear what their REP has to say about all this as I like to see both sides to a story. If your version is correct, then negative trust is warranted but let's not go there yet. Degencom could you pop in and give us your version, thx.

I read the thread in reputation and it's kinda odd to see Royse making threads like that. He used to make threads like that in his early days and get heated when he faced pushback. So might be an interesting thread to watch with popcorn.

As far as the casino goes, I am not a fan of a lack of response but I don't wanna jump the gun and tag. The issue is even if they respond we are expected to just take their word for it. I'll see what holydarkness accomplishes but his process is slow.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 14, 2026, 11:31:06 AM

[...] I'll see what holydarkness accomplishes but his process is slow.

Expediting it as best as I can by giving my best now by attempting a shot in the dark and see if I can work with marketing instead of compliance. Please hold a little.

It seems as though AB de Royse777 created that thread thinking his so-called reputation would add weight his advocacy of the Degen casino. He was deliberately avoiding the name of the member that "notified" him to create that thread.

Also, he used that thread to claim there was a "circle of ideal assistant" thus alluding to conspiracy and collusion. Popcorn really is in hand  

The degencom  account posted again today to promote their casino but again has not bothered to post in any thread that is questioning their conduct as scam accusations are being made against them. One other thing, is there any truth to their claim: Degen.com | Fastest Growing Online Casino & Sportsbook | DEGEN VIP Transfer

With any data that is currently available, can it actually be proven statistically if they are or are not the fastest growing online casino and sportsbook?

Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 14, 2026, 11:31:06 AM

I read the thread in reputation and it's kinda odd to see Royse making threads like that. He used to make threads like that in his early days and get heated when he faced pushback. So might be an interesting thread to watch with popcorn.

As far as the casino goes, I am not a fan of a lack of response but I don't wanna jump the gun and tag. The issue is even if they respond we are expected to just take their word for it. I'll see what holydarkness accomplishes but his process is slow.

Expediting the case resolution successful, as can be witnessed, the casino has replied on CH very recently. OP, can you confirm that you withdraw the initial deposit that they returned?