Hello everyone,

I deposited 410 USDT and placed 13 sports bets on the Degen Casino Sportsbook.

- 10 bets won 
- 3 bets lost 

All bets were accepted normally without any restrictions or warnings. After the events finished, the bets were settled according to official results, and my balance increased to 923.98 USDT.

I submitted a withdrawal request for the full amount. The withdrawal is still pending, and I still have full access to my account.

Instead of processing it, I received this email from support:

 "The reason why your account is locked is because of flagrantly and knowingly violation of the ToS of Degen and our Sportbook... 
 For this time, we will just be seizing your winnings and allowing you to have back your deposit on the site. We will starting to seize deposits as well if the behaviour continues."

Important notes:
- My account is NOT locked — I still have full access right now.
- The withdrawal request remains active in pending status.
- The casino gave zero specific evidence of any violation (no bet IDs, no markets, no proof of arbitrage, collusion, fixed matches, etc.).
- I did not use any bonuses, bots, multiple accounts, or prohibited activities.

I ask Degen Casino (@degencom https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3742927 to either:
1. Provide clear and specific evidence of which rule I violated and on which bets, or 
2. Immediately process the full withdrawal of 923.98 USDT.

Proofs:
Deposit:
Withdrawal request:
Betting history:
Support email: 

My login: btoom6789

This kind of dispute has been around for a long time. I have been seeing such cases, and these are not against any specific casinos. When a casino returns the deposit, of course I would say that they are not scammers. If they were scammers, they would confiscate the deposit as well. Rating Place was telling people that good books return the deposit if this is the first case. I can see that Degen returned the deposit, which should be considered a good gesture.

514 USD might be big for some people, while it might be a tiny amount for others. Degen has been promoting their casino on this forum as well, and they are spending way more than this. Ruining their reputation for 514 USD does not make sense.

Quote from: btoom6789 on August 07, 2026, 07:55:29 AM

Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on August 08, 2026, 04:58:55 AM

On the contrary, you don't have the right to complain if you agreed to the arbitration system...

Agreeing to an ADR process does not mean a player loses the right to publicly discuss the outcome, especially when similar cases under the same automated flags resulted in completely different decisions. Transparency, I believe, is standard practice on this forum.

I have, have, to agree on this, as it comes in line with my aim to make CH as the ADR that goes alongside the forum, and discussion on a thread on this platform and a dispute resolution on that platform is like talking in the same room, where one has the power to bind and more formal, and this other one open for a thorough discussion.

With that, I respond below:

Quote from: btoom6789 on August 07, 2026, 07:55:29 AM

Quote from: holydarkness on August 08, 2026, 02:14:46 AM

...were you thinking someone would have way too many spare time to fashioned all of their wager in such odd numbers instead of sign of arbing?

@holydarkness, I respect the work you do.

However, those "odd numbers" were simply the result of hitting the "Max Bet" button. The system itself calculated those specific stake amounts based on its own limits (which often produce non-round figures due to currency conversion and max stake settings). That is system behavior, not proof of arbitrage.

Arbitrage requires a mathematical edge across different bookmakers that guarantees a profit. I provided detailed historical odds from Bwin, Pinnacle, 1xBet, and Fonbet showing that Degen’s odds were at market level or worse at the exact time of placement.

My point remains simple: if a player is accused of arbitrage, concrete proof of cross-bookie arbing should be presented - not just an automated provider flag and max-bet stake sizes.

First of all, the order of the cases [I believe you use AI to create that?] is somewhat reversed and it creates a possibility and tendency to people who doesn't closely follow the case on both-and-simultaneous thread-page on the-forum-the-CH to misunderstood the situation. The correct sequence, CH-wise was:

1. Leparda's case, casino was asked to return the depo plus winning as gesture of good faith
2. your case, casino was found to be on the right, thus entitled to no further monetary expense
3. MaxTHer's case, casino's counter-accusation was deemed invalid as it is not strongly covered in their ToS, thus a full refund is demanded and they obliged.

So, the idea that me always advising the casino to refund as a good faith is somewhat incorrect, and perception of that, I can only fathom, must've been born from lack of reading all the sources. Refund as a good faith only happened in Leparda's case, the first one. The other ones are them getting support as there are signs of foul-play, and the last one, they're asked to pay in full due to insufficient basis of counter-accusation.

Now, why your case is considered as the casino being on the right and faithful to their ToS while MaxTher's case wasn't, it's because your case shows sign of Arbitrage [the clause being breached, "arbitrage", is clearly spelled on the verdict on CH], with your own betslips as well as evidences from Betby and Degen.

Your argument that the odd numbers in all of your bets might make sense IF the provider themselves did not provide the supporting evidence of arbing. But they did.

Know that in turn-key model, all bets from all sportsbook who use Betby [under their turn-key model[, are submitted to them for risk assessment and other purposes. This makes detecting arbitrage and other abusive betting strategy more easy, because Betby technically has all the betslips and can see that you placed bets in several of the platform they caters, under that strategy.

I will re-state that it is beyond my reasonable doubt and under my multiple cross-verification to determine that you're indeed arbing instead of [by your latest rebuttal] placing max bets on each and every bet you made. This post serves to explain points to those who doesn't understand or missed a fact or two from what happened and transpired on CH-and-forum.

The decision is final and can not be overturned.

Quote from: Shishir99 on August 08, 2026, 09:44:52 AM

When a casino returns the deposit, of course I would say that they are not scammers.

Returning a player’s own deposit after voiding the winnings is not a gesture of goodwill. It is simply returning the player’s capital. The disputed amount was the 513.98 USDT profit.

Quote from: holydarkness on August 08, 2026, 10:11:53 AM

...your case shows sign of Arbitrage...

@holydarkness

Thank you for clarifying the sequence of the cases.

I want to address the core point regarding Arbitrage

I have only one account on Degen Casino. All bets on Degen were placed using the site’s own Max Bet limits.

Arbitrage, by definition, means exploiting price differences across bookmakers to create a risk-free profit by covering opposite outcomes. Even if Betby aggregates risk data across its network, placing regular bets at market or below-market prices (as shown in the historical odds I provided) does not automatically equal arbitrage.

No specific evidence of matching opposite bets, arbitrage combinations, or guaranteed profit calculations was ever presented — only an automated provider flag.

While I understand the decision on ContestHunters is final, I do not agree with the confiscation. I posted here for transparency so that other players can evaluate the facts for themselves.

Quote from: btoom6789 on August 07, 2026, 07:55:29 AM

Agreeing to an ADR process does not mean a player loses the right to publicly discuss the outcome, especially when similar cases under the same automated flags resulted in completely different decisions. Transparency, I believe, is standard practice on this forum.

Right. I agree on that up to a point.

The arbitrator may have made a factual error in the decision (such as a calculation error, which can be easily verified), so in that case it is logical to further discuss about it, and of course, other aspects of the decision can be discussed in a forum like this one—especially in this section.

What I don't see the logic in is insisting over and over again that you're right once a ruling has gone against you. holydarkness has long been helping forum members with their disputes with casinos. In many cases, he has helped them recover the money they were claiming, which is why many of us believe he is impartial enough to serve as an arbitrator in these matters.

Quote from: btoom6789 on August 07, 2026, 11:53:23 AM

Quote from: Shishir99 on August 08, 2026, 09:44:52 AM

When a casino returns the deposit, of course I would say that they are not scammers.

Returning a player’s own deposit after voiding the winnings is not a gesture of goodwill. It is simply returning the player’s capital. The disputed amount was the 513.98 USDT profit.

It depends on whether the player is guilty of wrongdoing.
As a player, you may scream and say that you did not do anything wrong; you did not violate their rules. We never know if you are telling the truth or if you are telling part of the story that just makes you look like a victim. In case of a violation, it is considered a gesture of goodwill. But I won't argue with you here because there is no point in it. I am not from the casino, nor do I know what rules you violated. I just shared my own opinion about it, and you may not like it.

Quote from: holydarkness on August 06, 2026, 04:14:46 PM

I think it's safe to assume you clearly don't read my post on #9 and just jumping here out of nowhere, lashing for baseless reason, because...

I read your posts dude so chill the fuck out. I'm not lashing, I am giving my opinion. If you don't like it, then keep on scrolling.

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However, as my commitment to get CH goes alongside with the forum, of which means CH need to be "more" than CG and AG in matter of transparency, at least in a way that I can be as transparent as I can withouth breaking confidentiality, in case anyone wonder whether or not the call is valid, kindly check OP's own evidence of his betslips

Transparency is awesome and I have no issue with that. The issue is believing your proof or not. If you believe it, don't reward the player with the accusation with a gesture. If they cheat, they get 0. No gesture. It's like insurance for the cheater.

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I'm not taking sides in this particular case or at all really. I am just reading what this user wrote and have a little to say about potentially a lot.

Clearly not on your side or any complainer. Then I also said

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I am well aware of the number of scam accusations that are posted by scammers guys. I know that a small number of accusations are legitimate.

Again, not agreeing with the user or you. Don't come at me with this post 9 bullshit and treat me like you do Rating Place. I think you're good for the community to a point but I also think you're a hothead at times. I'm not a retard and last I checked I can have an opinion.

make sure you read post #14
really, make sure you read post #14

When you keep advising as a gesture to casinos it looks like a trust building thing. Once or twice ok, but every case( not saying you suggest it every case) it could start looking fishy, especially if you side with the casino more often then not. Just trying to say that if a casino has had so many complaints against them, and you side with them usually (based on the evidence), then the gesture starts looking more like a tool.

You don't wanna give the abuser an insurance policy and you don't want the sites to start thinking that they can just say you are value betting and you'll go with it. Look at the evidence, make a decision, and that's it right? That's what I am trying to say.

This post nor the last post was not an attack on you or ico. It's my opinion and you're welcome to ignore it.