Quote from: Slow death on August 01, 2026, 09:40:27 AM

Quote from: asvsfs on August 01, 2026, 03:18:30 AM

Hi Again,

I tried this for a while, didn't really work out well, been busy with other works after, trying again soon with a new launch, any serious gambler here any interest to micro invest in bankroll? Not an ask just opinion.

Well, I had to spend hours reading posts in your Ann thread that's in the altcoins section To understand the purpose of your casino token. Have you seen how many casino tokens are successful? You'll see something very scary. The best token (I'm only talking about "best" according to the position the casino token occupies on CoinMarketCap at the time of my post) is in position number 230. Look at that, position 230, it's not a very high position When you look at Bitcoin, which is in position 1 and there are tokens and altcoins that are in positions much lower than 230.

See the positions of the casino tokens:

1 - Shuffle ( position 230 )

2 - Rollbit Coin ( position 237 )

3 - BFG Token ( position 1134 )

source: https://coinmarketcap.com/view/gambling/

And see how these 3 casinos have been operating for several years and have a solid customer base. But even so, the positions of their tokens are not the best. This shows the high level of difficulty for casino tokens to be widely accepted in the market.

And yet you went ahead and created a casino token, knowing that your casino was new, didn't have a fixed customer base, and to make matters worse, you set a high minimum investment: "$3000". Let's think about this together: how many people are going to invest $3000 in a newly created casino when there are many other, slightly safer investments available?

My point with this post is the following:

You made a series of mistakes that you could have avoided if you had focused more on the present. The best approach is always to create a project with your own funds, and after it's finished, come back and post here to show good results without complaining. People don't invest in projects that have complaints from the creator.

Quote from: Kruw on August 01, 2026, 09:54:38 AM

Maybe choose a different name? There's a "Wasabi Wallet" that has been around since 2018.

Quote from: buwaytress on August 02, 2026, 04:41:44 PM

Sorry to be one of those guys that didn't read everything, but I actually disagree with Botnake that there is no space now with all the competition for a public-funded bankroll casino. All the ones I know who've tried it and closed it were:
- already too successful to continue carrying the investor liability so stopped, or
- were wary of legislation complications so stopped, or
- was Moneypot (what an idea this was!)

No one I knew stopped because it was no longer profitable. Bitvest is the only one still plugging along in this vein, I don't know the full picture there but it appears to still be wortwhile for users (and owner).

Have you thought about going back to the simple MP style I still believed had a brilliant idea, but poor risk management and a bad luck. Didn't need a token, just the basic idea of "house eventually wins".

I do think that casino tokens are a proven way to lose the trust of a community... but must admit here I'm not looking at any specifics you might have posted.

Quote from: asvsfs on August 01, 2026, 10:56:16 AM

Quote from: Kruw on August 01, 2026, 09:54:38 AM

Maybe choose a different name? There's a "Wasabi Wallet" that has been around since 2018.

Coincidence, we are not related, I just liked the name.

Quote from: Hispo on August 03, 2026, 01:31:39 AM

Quote from: asvsfs on August 01, 2026, 10:56:16 AM

Quote from: Kruw on August 01, 2026, 09:54:38 AM

Maybe choose a different name? There's a "Wasabi Wallet" that has been around since 2018.

Coincidence, we are not related, I just liked the name.

Are you going to change the name of your service or will you going to continue with it?
Because honestly, some people may feel misled by the name, assuming there is some direct relationship between your casino and wasabi wallet.

Also, if you want people to try your service without having to deposit, just drop a demo or allow people to deposit Test Bitcoins instead of actual Bitcoins, so they can have a glance on the experience you wish to offer.

Needless to say that getting private investors on this forum is quite difficult if you have a reputation and a name in order for people to give you bankroll, you would better off asking for a loan to a financial institution.

Quote from: arwin100 on August 03, 2026, 10:28:13 AM

Quote from: Hispo on August 03, 2026, 01:31:39 AM

Quote from: asvsfs on August 01, 2026, 10:56:16 AM

Quote from: Kruw on August 01, 2026, 09:54:38 AM

Maybe choose a different name? There's a "Wasabi Wallet" that has been around since 2018.

Coincidence, we are not related, I just liked the name.

Are you going to change the name of your service or will you going to continue with it?
Because honestly, some people may feel misled by the name, assuming there is some direct relationship between your casino and wasabi wallet.

Also, if you want people to try your service without having to deposit, just drop a demo or allow people to deposit Test Bitcoins instead of actual Bitcoins, so they can have a glance on the experience you wish to offer.

Needless to say that getting private investors on this forum is quite difficult if you have a reputation and a name in order for people to give you bankroll, you would better off asking for a loan to a financial institution.

Until they didn't made those changes many people would provably assume that they are trying to mislead and just want to tied their name on a popular wallet.

So changing their name will provably help them to build a trust from people. Also your suggestion is good towards offering demo or Bitcoin testnet deposit. Since this can help those people to try their casino without taking to much risk.

Also since they are new for sure that getting private investor is so tough knowing that they are new, also no serious investor would easily grab their offers especially that they are not yet a reputable or or popular casino.

Quote from: asvsfs on August 01, 2026, 04:35:37 AM

Quote from: Botnake on August 01, 2026, 04:10:48 AM

I don’t think the bankroll investment model will work that well for a casino today, especially if most of the funding will only come from micro-investors.

The competition is already much tougher now. Casinos need serious capital for marketing, promotions, licensing, staff, liquidity, and everything else needed to survive. If the bankroll is built mostly from small investments, then the business itself may also remain too small to compete with established platforms.

Maybe this model worked better before, when the market was not yet this crowded. But today, I think you should consider changing the approach and look for one or a few serious investors instead of relying heavily on micro-investors.

Otherwise, people might just end up wasting both their money and time on a casino that may struggle to survive.

Agree it won't be competitive, but I'm looking for a new way of excitement there, and this won't be the only bankroll for sure, It's more of a staking solution to have a cut of house-edge, if house invest 100k and players invest 50k , 33% of the house edge will be distributed among players, stake/unstake will be daily basis( you get to choose how many days you lock your fund) so its also a risk and fun to watch how it plays out.

Other model is hosting your own game with your own capital and see how it plays out.

I'm looking for a sustainable new fun way to gamble, gambling is an expensive business now with little innovation.

Quote from: asvsfs on August 02, 2026, 05:06:01 PM

It is very close to MP more transparency and native tokens.

Having bankroll, and features I have is hard to scale if platform supports many coins, imagine a bankroll of 5 tokens or more, pvp interactions hard to match players. Biggest of all is loss as value mechanism - 90% value back -

I do agree with everything you said, and having coin is self damaging, I wanna create the trust by showing virtually everything to players, RNG, realtime bankroll, treasury ( tokens to platform token swap), what do you think about these?

Players still can wager in other tokens, but can't invest, can't have the loss as value ( virtually 90% value back), Card battles and boxes.

Next week Im hoping to release an early version and an Airdrop maybe here to get help of some to try the system.

Quote from: buwaytress on August 03, 2026, 09:59:38 PM

Quote from: asvsfs on August 02, 2026, 05:06:01 PM

It is very close to MP more transparency and native tokens.

Having bankroll, and features I have is hard to scale if platform supports many coins, imagine a bankroll of 5 tokens or more, pvp interactions hard to match players. Biggest of all is loss as value mechanism - 90% value back -

I do agree with everything you said, and having coin is self damaging, I wanna create the trust by showing virtually everything to players, RNG, realtime bankroll, treasury ( tokens to platform token swap), what do you think about these?

Players still can wager in other tokens, but can't invest, can't have the loss as value ( virtually 90% value back), Card battles and boxes.

Next week Im hoping to release an early version and an Airdrop maybe here to get help of some to try the system.

Yeah, that's why I liked MP (IIRC it only had Bitcoin). Just one concept, many games, easy for anyone to plugin and host the game, everyone using the same global bankroll and investing in MP means benefitting from all the different casinos using the API. I do think more transparency would be very, very cool. The native tokens, I suppose, if you really find a way to not let that be the "make or break", perhaps.

It has to be smarter and more useful than a regular lossback (without being too complicated)... I honestly can't speak much about tokenomics other than, if it's too complex, even if transparent, you'll lose the real players. I'd focus on blocking out pure speculators. Too many tokens die early deaths because they were rugged by speculators and developers (yes, the only real way a token can survive is if the developers sacrifice their "easy ticket". All that locking doesn't work).

Can't promise I'll try it, but you won't find a shortage of players on this forum =) GL! I miss those public-investor-casino-bankroll days!

Quote from: RealNigga67 on August 04, 2026, 02:41:26 PM

What's the $WT contract address?

Quote from: asvsfs on August 05, 2026, 05:05:50 AM

Quote from: RealNigga67 on August 04, 2026, 02:41:26 PM

What's the $WT contract address?

TBD !  We have the contract thu since no one owns it outside of the platform ( not unlocked it yet ) address is irrelevant. Do you think releasing the token before adaptation of the platform is a good idea ? I'm not really looking to raise money by selling the token (would have been nice thu), I'm not sure if people still buy that idea for a non reputable project like mine.

Quote from: Cointxz on August 05, 2026, 06:52:13 AM

Quote from: asvsfs on August 05, 2026, 05:05:50 AM

Quote from: RealNigga67 on August 04, 2026, 02:41:26 PM

What's the $WT contract address?

TBD !  We have the contract thu since no one owns it outside of the platform ( not unlocked it yet ) address is irrelevant. Do you think releasing the token before adaptation of the platform is a good idea ? I'm not really looking to raise money by selling the token (would have been nice thu), I'm not sure if people still buy that idea for a non reputable project like mine.

I notice that you display price on your website for WT since you have your own exchange. If there’s no contract address means no one can withdraw the token outside of your casino.

Besides, selling casino token is the most common and feasible way to generate investment for your casino instead of just ask money to investors.

I like the design and idea of your casino since you combine exchange and crypto games to your casino games. Maybe make your casino decentralized and transparent to make the liquidity pool open for public staking?