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About 6 months ago I created https://orangefren.com/
Also available at http://rnwis2whetqcj4oknksnc5l24jbh33nflunifff3xtjjonnoxu3ld6id.onion/

OrangeFren.com lets you quickly compare the rates among instant, KYC-free, exchanges trading Bitcoin (including on Lightining), Bitcoin Cash, Ethereum, Litecoin, Monero, USDC and USDT.

The comparison takes into account the amount you're willing to trade and (by default) your region.

At this point the site queries about a half a dozen exchanges, none of which require a sign up.

For trades from Bitcoin into Monero the site also shows atomic swaps when their rate is better than that of instant exchanges.

We also partnered up with some of our best exchanges to offer the OrangeFren Guarantee - a security deposit provided to us by the exchanges to compensate our users in cases of disputes with the exchanges.

The specifics vary depending on the exchange, but the most common points include compensation to the user if an exchange runs off with their money, doesn't respond to their messages, lies about the previewed exchange rate or when the user is asked to answer KYC or SoF questions and passes the verification.

You can also use our service through our Telegram bot: https://orangefren.com/bot/telegram It has the same functionality as OrangeFren.com with the added ability to request price alerts delivered through a DM straight to your inbox.

If you'd like to follow our project we're most active on Reddit as u/OrangeFren.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts and feedback!
Edited Aug 19, 2026 18:31
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That's not very "stealth".
True, but remember that usually to activate these cards you must look like a "normal" browser anyways. No Tor, no VPN.
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True, but remember that usually to activate these cards you must look like a "normal" browser anyways. No Tor, no VPN.
That's why I've never used them. I'd like to, but if I pay extra and don't get privacy, I can just as well use the credit card that's tied to my real bank account. I don't see any benefit, only drawbacks.
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That's not very "stealth".
True, but remember that usually to activate these cards you must look like a "normal" browser anyways. No Tor, no VPN.
With a payment processor like Cryptomus in the middle, it's hard to consider the service no-kyc and no SoF request safe.

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/cryptomus.com?stars=1
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That's not very "stealth".
True, but remember that usually to activate these cards you must look like a "normal" browser anyways. No Tor, no VPN.
With a payment processor like Cryptomus in the middle, it's hard to consider the service no-kyc and no SoF request safe.

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/cryptomus.com?stars=1
I recall Cryptomus recently had some trouble in Canada, because their KYC policy was too relaxed: https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/cryptomus-fined-177-million-fintrac-9.6948338 $177M fine! Lucky for them that it's probably 177M Canadian dollars instead of real dollars 🦅

For big purchases I would advise people to use crypto concierges instead of any card. We just added a table with them to OrangeFren.com yesterday. They're generally used for hotels, flights, laptops, even cars.



Update to affiliated services

Yesterday we re-run an automated check which aims to group together exchanges which we believe likely are associated with each other. The check revealed two clusters:
QuickEx – SwapgateBitXchange – ETZ-Swap – Explace – MIXED – NeverKYC – OctoSwap – PegasusSwap
Following this update BitXchange reached out claiming that they are not associated with any other service.

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I recall Cryptomus recently had some trouble in Canada, because their KYC policy was too relaxed: https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/cryptomus-fined-177-million-fintrac-9.6948338 $177M fine!
Wow, just wow. I thought those payment processors were much smaller, earning a few percent of a few payments. I never expected them to be able to pay fines this big.

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For big purchases I would advise people to use crypto concierges
Who's going to pay 8-10% in fees for this on large purchases?
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For big purchases I would advise people to use crypto concierges
Who's going to pay 8-10% in fees for this on large purchases?
I think if you have stolen money from hacks or drug money you will pay 10% to not worry about the money entering your bank account directly and less change to get caught using the money. Or if you have too much paranoia about KYC and privacy that you accept this high fee

I read a case where a scammer used Bitrefill to buy food delivery to his house with stolen money but he got caught because they traced to bitrefill and asked for the door dash codes and it was connected to his real address
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For big purchases I would advise people to use crypto concierges
Who's going to pay 8-10% in fees for this on large purchases?
I think if you have stolen money from hacks or drug money you will pay 10% to not worry about the money entering your bank account directly and less change to get caught using the money. Or if you have too much paranoia about KYC and privacy that you accept this high fee

I read a case where a scammer used Bitrefill to buy food delivery to his house with stolen money but he got caught because they traced to bitrefill and asked for the door dash codes and it was connected to his real address
I recall running across some site selling money mule debit cards for 11-12%. I don't recall the name of the site, but concierge services being cheaper makes them more attractive.

Furthermore I know that Shopinbit actually has enough scale and experience that they pay a lower base price for some hotels than me or you, so their 10% surcharge can actually be 0 for you. They can also source a product for you.

For instance let's say you want a laptop with a keyboard layout that's unavailable in your region. Shopinbit doesn't just pay for the cart you assembled they also find suppliers and shipping.

Our automated checks regarding suspected affiliation have stirred up additional controversy.

Our checks revealed a link between Quickex and Swapgate. It's also public knowledge that Swapgate is a whitelabel of Quickex. Nevertheless Quickex have objected that our fully automatic checks, which primarily consider which tech stack each exchange uses, revealed a connection.
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I recall running across some site selling money mule debit cards for 11-12%. I don't recall the name of the site, but concierge services being cheaper makes them more attractive.

Furthermore I know that Shopinbit actually has enough scale and experience that they pay a lower base price for some hotels than me or you, so their 10% surcharge can actually be 0 for you. They can also source a product for you.

For instance let's say you want a laptop with a keyboard layout that's unavailable in your region. Shopinbit doesn't just pay for the cart you assembled they also find suppliers and shipping.
Ohh in this case it can make sense to use a service like this and pay for the convenience

A similar idea is offered by Mastercard concierge where they find and book famous restaurants or events for you, like World Cup tickets. If they work all day with this they acquire contacts and experience to solve any problem you throw at them, and there is a fee paid because they want you as a credit card customer when they earn from fees with every buy you make
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True, but remember that usually to activate these cards you must look like a "normal" browser anyways. No Tor, no VPN.
There are several crypto cards that work with with vpn/tor, and they are not related with stealths.

Who's going to pay 8-10% in fees for this on large purchases?
Please remind me how much percentage do you pay to your government for holding and using Bitcoin?
I don't know exact numbers but I am sure it's a lot higher than 10% 
Some people just dont want to pay extortion fees.
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hide [dot] cash scam

Our friends from kycnot.me have uncovered yesterday that a swapper called hide [dot] cash is scam. We never had this service on our website.

The domain name alone raises eyebrows for me. It's as shady as it comes 

Most of the mushrooming directories do not have any genuine intentions. I have a feeling some are created to promote their scam instant exchanges, and this takes us back to the time of fake review pages that contained fake or scam bitcoin mixers. I think scammers have realized that this is a lucrative venture

Stick to kycncot.me.
Looks like you made a small mistake. That second "c" is not part of the domain name.
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I think if you have stolen money from hacks or drug money you will pay 10% to not worry about the money entering your bank account directly and less change to get caught using the money.
I highly doubt registered legit concierge services will handle stolen money and let you get away with it when they get questions about it.

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Or if you have too much paranoia about KYC and privacy that you accept this high fee
In that case it's even worse to tell a third party you're using crypto, followed by your shipping address.

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I read a case where a scammer used Bitrefill to buy food delivery to his house with stolen money but he got caught because they traced to bitrefill and asked for the door dash codes and it was connected to his real address
That's easy to prevent: don't steal money

Who's going to pay 8-10% in fees for this on large purchases?
Please remind me how much percentage do you pay to your government for holding and using Bitcoin?
Taxes here will be a mathematical limit approaching 100% in the long run.

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I don't know exact numbers but I am sure it's a lot higher than 10%  
Some people just dont want to pay extortion fees.
It's going to be tough explaining how you got that lambo
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Stick to kycncot.me.
Looks like you made a small mistake. That second "c" is not part of the domain name.

Thanks! Fixed it!

That's easy to prevent: don't steal money
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It's going to be tough explaining how you got that lambo

I agree. Don't steal money

Explaning a lambo is fairly easily actually. Just make sure it's never technically yours. You just happen to drive it, but it's owned by some entity somewhere. Maybe a company. Maybe a foundation. Maybe a trust... So many options
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Explaning a lambo is fairly easily actually. Just make sure it's never technically yours. You just happen to drive it, but it's owned by some entity somewhere. Maybe a company. Maybe a foundation. Maybe a trust... So many options
I take it you don't live in an over regulated country. Here, driving a company lambo means paying bijtelling: 22% of the dealer price (including high tax based on emissions, and sales tax of course) gets added to your income, and taxed at 49.5%. So a €499,950 Lamborghini Temerario costs you €54,444 per year in additional income tax.
So again: it's going to be very hard to explain, even if it's not in your name.
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I take it you don't live in an over regulated country. Here, driving a company lambo means paying bijtelling: 22% of the dealer price (including high tax based on emissions, and sales tax of course) gets added to your income, and taxed at 49.5%. So a €499,950 Lamborghini Temerario costs you €54,444 per year in additional income tax.
So again: it's going to be very hard to explain, even if it's not in your name.
Oh God what??? Insanity.
Maybe it can be bypassed by having foreign plates...?
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I think if you have stolen money from hacks or drug money you will pay 10% to not worry about the money entering your bank account directly and less change to get caught using the money.
I highly doubt registered legit concierge services will handle stolen money and let you get away with it when they get questions about it.
They will not because they do not want to be closed and arrested, but you can still try

And we know there is a lot of stolen and hacked money in all no kyc services, including with OrangeFren that has no kyc in many services when using their referral link. It is just how the world works let's not act innocent
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