Degen. $601 in bets voided, deposit refunded. SCAM

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I deposited $250 at the casino, then placed sports bets, winning 12, losing six, and losing two. Of these bets, there were also two doubles and four bets on the World Championship. A few days ago, I placed a $602 withdrawal. The withdrawal was immediately approved, but the funds didn't appear in my wallet for several hours. I contacted support, who informed me that their provider had decided to cancel my bets because they were placed on a weak line. What was the line's weakness? Are you retroactively deciding what's weak and what isn't? I bet on what I wanted, and you suggest I bet on it. Please note that this complaint only appeared after I submitted the withdrawal request, suggesting that the casino apparently simply doesn't want to pay out, citing the provider's fault. I immediately warned the casino that I would withdraw my deposit as they suggested, but then I would start filing disputes on resources I knew. Especially since when I checked the same Bitcointalk, I was surprised to find several identical complaints from other users. A dubious coincidence, don't you think? I'm attaching screenshots of the correspondence and my bets.

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I deposited $250 at the casino, then placed sports bets, winning 12, losing six, and losing two. Of these bets, there were also two doubles and four bets on the World Championship. A few days ago, I placed a $602 withdrawal. The withdrawal was immediately approved, but the funds didn't appear in my wallet for several hours. I contacted support, who informed me that their provider had decided to cancel my bets because they were placed on a weak line. What was the line's weakness? Are you retroactively deciding what's weak and what isn't? I bet on what I wanted, and you suggest I bet on it. Please note that this complaint only appeared after I submitted the withdrawal request, suggesting that the casino apparently simply doesn't want to pay out, citing the provider's fault. I immediately warned the casino that I would withdraw my deposit as they suggested, but then I would start filing disputes on resources I knew. Especially since when I checked the same Bitcointalk, I was surprised to find several identical complaints from other users. A dubious coincidence, don't you think? I'm attaching screenshots of the correspondence and my bets.

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My post should have been done in two separate paragraphs. The discount comment has nothing to do with you. Giving a book a discount means negotiating rather than making a decision on the party in the right. This thread gives me hope that the days of recommending deposits returned and winnings confiscated are over.

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Jul 18, 2026 15:26

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#47

My post should have been done in two separate paragraphs. The discount comment has nothing to do with you. Giving a book a discount means negotiating rather than making a decision on the party in the right. This thread gives me hope that the days of recommending deposits returned and winnings confiscated are over.

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[quote=nutildah on July 17, 2026, 06:43:37 PM]
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[quote=inspace on July 17, 2026, 05:53:34 PM]
leparda, Hello. Change the thread title to . 

[/quote]
He should probably wait until the money is in his pocket.
[...]

[/quote]
The remaining fund has been returned, as per few hours ago, I've informed the player on CH [as it seems OP do follow the recommendation and focused there and barely online here after case being moved there] so he can withdraw immediately.

I will closely monitor from both ends [CH and checking from degen's rep] to see if the fund moved, and would encourage OP to return to the forum and mark this as resolved by then.

Though, at this point, the case should be as good as resolved, given the fund is ready for OP to be transferred to his wallet.

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Jul 18, 2026 16:35

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#48

Quote from: nutildah on July 17, 2026, 06:43:37 PM
[...]

Quote from: inspace on July 17, 2026, 05:53:34 PM
leparda, Hello. Change the thread title to .

He should probably wait until the money is in his pocket.
[...]

The remaining fund has been returned, as per few hours ago, I've informed the player on CH [as it seems OP do follow the recommendation and focused there and barely online here after case being moved there] so he can withdraw immediately.

I will closely monitor from both ends [CH and checking from degen's rep] to see if the fund moved, and would encourage OP to return to the forum and mark this as resolved by then.

Though, at this point, the case should be as good as resolved, given the fund is ready for OP to be transferred to his wallet.

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[quote=holydarkness on July 18, 2026, 04:35:24 PM]
[quote=nutildah on July 17, 2026, 06:43:37 PM]
[...]
[quote=inspace on July 17, 2026, 05:53:34 PM]
leparda, Hello. Change the thread title to . 

[/quote]
He should probably wait until the money is in his pocket.
[...]

[/quote]
The remaining fund has been returned, as per few hours ago, I've informed the player on CH [as it seems OP do follow the recommendation and focused there and barely online here after case being moved there] so he can withdraw immediately.

I will closely monitor from both ends [CH and checking from degen's rep] to see if the fund moved, and would encourage OP to return to the forum and mark this as resolved by then.

Though, at this point, the case should be as good as resolved, given the fund is ready for OP to be transferred to his wallet.

[/quote]
I'll write this here as well. I confirm that I have received the $352 (including the deposit refund, which totals the $601 discussed earlier). I now have no financial claims against Degen Casino. Thank you for your assistance!

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Jul 18, 2026 19:46

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Quote from: holydarkness on July 18, 2026, 04:35:24 PM
Quote from: nutildah on July 17, 2026, 06:43:37 PM
[...]

Quote from: inspace on July 17, 2026, 05:53:34 PM
leparda, Hello. Change the thread title to .

He should probably wait until the money is in his pocket.
[...]

The remaining fund has been returned, as per few hours ago, I've informed the player on CH [as it seems OP do follow the recommendation and focused there and barely online here after case being moved there] so he can withdraw immediately.

I will closely monitor from both ends [CH and checking from degen's rep] to see if the fund moved, and would encourage OP to return to the forum and mark this as resolved by then.

Though, at this point, the case should be as good as resolved, given the fund is ready for OP to be transferred to his wallet.

I'll write this here as well. I confirm that I have received the $352 (including the deposit refund, which totals the $601 discussed earlier). I now have no financial claims against Degen Casino. Thank you for your assistance!

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[quote=leparda on July 18, 2026, 07:46:56 PM]
[quote=holydarkness on July 18, 2026, 04:35:24 PM]
[quote=nutildah on July 17, 2026, 06:43:37 PM]
[...]
[quote=inspace on July 17, 2026, 05:53:34 PM]
leparda, Hello. Change the thread title to . 

[/quote]
He should probably wait until the money is in his pocket.
[...]

[/quote]
The remaining fund has been returned, as per few hours ago, I've informed the player on CH [as it seems OP do follow the recommendation and focused there and barely online here after case being moved there] so he can withdraw immediately.

I will closely monitor from both ends [CH and checking from degen's rep] to see if the fund moved, and would encourage OP to return to the forum and mark this as resolved by then.

Though, at this point, the case should be as good as resolved, given the fund is ready for OP to be transferred to his wallet.

[/quote]
I'll write this here as well. I confirm that I have received the $352 (including the deposit refund, which totals the $601 discussed earlier). I now have no financial claims against Degen Casino. Thank you for your assistance!

[/quote]Glad you got your money, now you should probably lock this thread since your case is over.

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Jul 20, 2026 11:37

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Quote from: leparda on July 18, 2026, 07:46:56 PM
Quote from: holydarkness on July 18, 2026, 04:35:24 PM
Quote from: nutildah on July 17, 2026, 06:43:37 PM
[...]

Quote from: inspace on July 17, 2026, 05:53:34 PM
leparda, Hello. Change the thread title to .

He should probably wait until the money is in his pocket.
[...]

The remaining fund has been returned, as per few hours ago, I've informed the player on CH [as it seems OP do follow the recommendation and focused there and barely online here after case being moved there] so he can withdraw immediately.

I will closely monitor from both ends [CH and checking from degen's rep] to see if the fund moved, and would encourage OP to return to the forum and mark this as resolved by then.

Though, at this point, the case should be as good as resolved, given the fund is ready for OP to be transferred to his wallet.

I'll write this here as well. I confirm that I have received the $352 (including the deposit refund, which totals the $601 discussed earlier). I now have no financial claims against Degen Casino. Thank you for your assistance!

Glad you got your money, now you should probably lock this thread since your case is over.

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Their forum representative has been posting quite extensively to promote their casino but has not posted in this thread nor the one that AB de Royse777 seemingly created to advocate on behalf of the degencom account here: Can we look into inspace feedback activities and his quick red tag to degencom?

The degencom account has not responded to the allegations in any thread below:

Degen. $601 in bets voided, deposit refunded. SCAM
Degen Casino refuses to pay 513.98 USDT Sportsbook winnings
Can we look into inspace feedback activities and his quick red tag to degencom?

They made just one post in this thread: Degen.com Confiscated My Winnings

The impression they give is that just because they are running a campaign they are beyond scrutiny. They seem to be confident in their approach especially when advocates such as AB de Royse777 jump to their defence without even addressing the conduct of the casino.

[quote=yahoo62278 on July 08, 2026, 02:06:42 AM]
Let's hear what their REP has to say about all this as I like to see both sides to a story. If your version is correct, then negative trust is warranted but let's not go there yet. Degencom could you pop in and give us your version, thx.
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Aug 18, 2026 16:12

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#51

Their forum representative has been posting quite extensively to promote their casino but has not posted in this thread nor the one that AB de Royse777 seemingly created to advocate on behalf of the degencom account here: Can we look into inspace feedback activities and his quick red tag to degencom?

The degencom account has not responded to the allegations in any thread below:

Degen. $601 in bets voided, deposit refunded. SCAM
Degen Casino refuses to pay 513.98 USDT Sportsbook winnings
Can we look into inspace feedback activities and his quick red tag to degencom?

They made just one post in this thread: Degen.com Confiscated My Winnings

The impression they give is that just because they are running a campaign they are beyond scrutiny. They seem to be confident in their approach especially when advocates such as AB de Royse777 jump to their defence without even addressing the conduct of the casino.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 08, 2026, 02:06:42 AM
Let's hear what their REP has to say about all this as I like to see both sides to a story. If your version is correct, then negative trust is warranted but let's not go there yet. Degencom could you pop in and give us your version, thx.

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[quote=rohang on July 16, 2026, 07:34:05 AM]
To me its plain - IF there is a weak line(whatever the hell that may be), that is supplied by betby and the player has nothing to do with it.

Why are the players put at fault ? Betby should be the one to compensate whatever amounts the sites lose due to these 'weak lines'

[/quote] I donÂt think that Betby should be involved in any payment. If a sportsbook isnÂt happy with the lines, they should just change providers. A weak line (value line or soft line) can be caused for multiple reasons. It could be a slow moving line and players make the bet before the line changes. Those are called steam players. All the book has to do is delay approving the bet. Many books do that. It can also be that the line is unique or opinionated.

I agree with you 100% in that the player isnÂt at fault betting these lines.

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Quote from: rohang on July 16, 2026, 07:34:05 AM
To me its plain - IF there is a weak line(whatever the hell that may be), that is supplied by betby and the player has nothing to do with it.

Why are the players put at fault ? Betby should be the one to compensate whatever amounts the sites lose due to these 'weak lines'

I donÂt think that Betby should be involved in any payment. If a sportsbook isnÂt happy with the lines, they should just change providers. A weak line (value line or soft line) can be caused for multiple reasons. It could be a slow moving line and players make the bet before the line changes. Those are called steam players. All the book has to do is delay approving the bet. Many books do that. It can also be that the line is unique or opinionated.

I agree with you 100% in that the player isnÂt at fault betting these lines.

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[quote=holydarkness on July 17, 2026, 04:21:24 PM]
[quote=JollyGood on July 16, 2026, 06:40:20 PM]
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If we are now talking about him reviewing the evidence from both parties on a website that was created by a campaign manager and him being the sole adjudicator and the one that has the final say on whether the claimant was scammed or the casino was not guilty, that is a different matter altogether. I appreciate him being the middle-man in an attempt at conflict resolution but I do not support any one member (regardless of who that member might be) to make a decision that is binding between both parties. 
[...] 

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Ooff... that'll be a bit awkward situation here, given my binding decision after reading all the evidence is to get Degen to pay the difference between amount disputed and what's already returned as initial deposit, amounted in 352 USD.

I mean, we're really close to conflict resolution attempt here, it's sad if that has to go down the drain because a situation where I become the conciliator [it's the term they used there, not "adjudicator"] is not supported. I personally don't mind, less stress for me. The work I do, to read all the evidences and piecing the puzzles, are no different than what I do here, but [if I may borrow the closest euphemism, though in no way I am saying I wear it] heavy is the head that wear the crown.

Being the one who make the final call is not easy, especially if you're neutral, because other people from the other side who doesn't like the call, or simply have a personal agenda, can use that verdict-making as a way to attack me.

So... yeah, a bit awkward here, given my call is to reimburse the difference, and if it has to go down the drain, as I don't think same offer can be achieved elsewhere. And sure, we can get people to not use CH to resolve Degen's cases [or any other casinos cases], and when the casino is silent or non-responsive, we can tag and flag them. But will that be a satisfactory outcome to the player who lose their fund? If they may choose to get refunded through a binding decision or to get the casino tagged because escalation to a specific ADR is frowned upon, I wonder what would they choose.

[/quote] what evidence did you need to look at? The bet and line is all you needed. ThereÂs nothing private. If you donÂt have the line history the book can show you the percentage that the line is off from widely available. Post that percentage.

If you post that, we can make a decision. Otherwise you are just negotiating so the book can pay a discounted price.

@degen what is your definition of a weak line?

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Aug 18, 2026 16:12

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Quote from: holydarkness on July 17, 2026, 04:21:24 PM
Quote from: JollyGood on July 16, 2026, 06:40:20 PM
[...]
If we are now talking about him reviewing the evidence from both parties on a website that was created by a campaign manager and him being the sole adjudicator and the one that has the final say on whether the claimant was scammed or the casino was not guilty, that is a different matter altogether. I appreciate him being the middle-man in an attempt at conflict resolution but I do not support any one member (regardless of who that member might be) to make a decision that is binding between both parties.
[...]

Ooff... that'll be a bit awkward situation here, given my binding decision after reading all the evidence is to get Degen to pay the difference between amount disputed and what's already returned as initial deposit, amounted in 352 USD.

I mean, we're really close to conflict resolution attempt here, it's sad if that has to go down the drain because a situation where I become the conciliator [it's the term they used there, not "adjudicator"] is not supported. I personally don't mind, less stress for me. The work I do, to read all the evidences and piecing the puzzles, are no different than what I do here, but [if I may borrow the closest euphemism, though in no way I am saying I wear it] heavy is the head that wear the crown.

Being the one who make the final call is not easy, especially if you're neutral, because other people from the other side who doesn't like the call, or simply have a personal agenda, can use that verdict-making as a way to attack me.

So... yeah, a bit awkward here, given my call is to reimburse the difference, and if it has to go down the drain, as I don't think same offer can be achieved elsewhere. And sure, we can get people to not use CH to resolve Degen's cases [or any other casinos cases], and when the casino is silent or non-responsive, we can tag and flag them. But will that be a satisfactory outcome to the player who lose their fund? If they may choose to get refunded through a binding decision or to get the casino tagged because escalation to a specific ADR is frowned upon, I wonder what would they choose.

what evidence did you need to look at? The bet and line is all you needed. ThereÂs nothing private. If you donÂt have the line history the book can show you the percentage that the line is off from widely available. Post that percentage.

If you post that, we can make a decision. Otherwise you are just negotiating so the book can pay a discounted price.

@degen what is your definition of a weak line?

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[quote=Free Market Capitalist on July 17, 2026, 05:28:20 PM]
[quote=Rating Place on July 17, 2026, 05:19:56 PM]
I think that Jolly Good makes a lot of great points. I donÂt think that giving a book a discount is success. ItÂs just helping books to continue a predatory practice where they donÂt pay full price to winners but take 100% from losers.

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A discount, you fucking mongoloid? Not only can't you read, but you can't do math either. So it's no surprise you're spouting that nonsense. 

[/quote] I deleted one post. If I misread and the player was paid in full then I apologize and holy did a good job. Was the player paid 100% of his winnings? ItÂs confusing since this would be the first time that holy disagreed with the odds provider. Holy said the odds providers make the call and the book is the middleman.

If holy is willing to start disagreeing with the odds providers, then there may be value to the new site.

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Quote from: Free Market Capitalist on July 17, 2026, 05:28:20 PM
Quote from: Rating Place on July 17, 2026, 05:19:56 PM
I think that Jolly Good makes a lot of great points. I donÂt think that giving a book a discount is success. ItÂs just helping books to continue a predatory practice where they donÂt pay full price to winners but take 100% from losers.

A discount, you fucking mongoloid? Not only can't you read, but you can't do math either. So it's no surprise you're spouting that nonsense.

I deleted one post. If I misread and the player was paid in full then I apologize and holy did a good job. Was the player paid 100% of his winnings? ItÂs confusing since this would be the first time that holy disagreed with the odds provider. Holy said the odds providers make the call and the book is the middleman.

If holy is willing to start disagreeing with the odds providers, then there may be value to the new site.

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[quote=nutildah on July 17, 2026, 06:43:37 PM]
[quote=Rating Place on July 17, 2026, 04:26:04 PM]
what evidence did you need to look at? 

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Its irrelevant. Per usual, HD does not owe you a response. I don't know why you still fail to understand this. Stop trying to throw wrenches in his cases.

[quote=inspace on July 17, 2026, 05:53:34 PM]
leparda, Hello. Change the thread title to . 

[/quote]
He should probably wait until the money is in his pocket.

[quote=inspace on July 17, 2026, 05:53:34 PM]
I've removed the tag for now, and I think holydarkness's help was far more significant in this matter than his fee. I don't think I'd have the patience to act as a peacemaker and would probably prefer to find another job altogether.

[/quote]
These are all valid points that some people seem to take for granted.

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Knee pads , for 2 years you interfered with cases and prolonged them for months. Holy is beginning to understand it doesnÂt take months of irrelevant questioning and that odds providers donÂt make the final decision. If not for you interfering, he may have learned this a long time ago and cases would have been settled in days.

This case was for a tiny amount of money. If holy comes to the same conclusion in big money cases, his new site will be valuable. There really isnÂt much to be done other than asking the book what they consider a weak line. ThereÂs a difference between weak and bad.

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Quote from: nutildah on July 17, 2026, 06:43:37 PM
Quote from: Rating Place on July 17, 2026, 04:26:04 PM
what evidence did you need to look at?

Its irrelevant. Per usual, HD does not owe you a response. I don't know why you still fail to understand this. Stop trying to throw wrenches in his cases.

Quote from: inspace on July 17, 2026, 05:53:34 PM
leparda, Hello. Change the thread title to .

He should probably wait until the money is in his pocket.

Quote from: inspace on July 17, 2026, 05:53:34 PM
I've removed the tag for now, and I think holydarkness's help was far more significant in this matter than his fee. I don't think I'd have the patience to act as a peacemaker and would probably prefer to find another job altogether.

These are all valid points that some people seem to take for granted.

Knee pads , for 2 years you interfered with cases and prolonged them for months. Holy is beginning to understand it doesnÂt take months of irrelevant questioning and that odds providers donÂt make the final decision. If not for you interfering, he may have learned this a long time ago and cases would have been settled in days.

This case was for a tiny amount of money. If holy comes to the same conclusion in big money cases, his new site will be valuable. There really isnÂt much to be done other than asking the book what they consider a weak line. ThereÂs a difference between weak and bad.

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