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About 6 months ago I created https://orangefren.com/
Also available at http://rnwis2whetqcj4oknksnc5l24jbh33nflunifff3xtjjonnoxu3ld6id.onion/

OrangeFren.com lets you quickly compare the rates among instant, KYC-free, exchanges trading Bitcoin (including on Lightining), Bitcoin Cash, Ethereum, Litecoin, Monero, USDC and USDT.

The comparison takes into account the amount you're willing to trade and (by default) your region.

At this point the site queries about a half a dozen exchanges, none of which require a sign up.

For trades from Bitcoin into Monero the site also shows atomic swaps when their rate is better than that of instant exchanges.

We also partnered up with some of our best exchanges to offer the OrangeFren Guarantee - a security deposit provided to us by the exchanges to compensate our users in cases of disputes with the exchanges.

The specifics vary depending on the exchange, but the most common points include compensation to the user if an exchange runs off with their money, doesn't respond to their messages, lies about the previewed exchange rate or when the user is asked to answer KYC or SoF questions and passes the verification.

You can also use our service through our Telegram bot: https://orangefren.com/bot/telegram It has the same functionality as OrangeFren.com with the added ability to request price alerts delivered through a DM straight to your inbox.

If you'd like to follow our project we're most active on Reddit as u/OrangeFren.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts and feedback!
Edited Oct 27, 2026 03:55
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RetoSwap warning

Almost 7000 XMR ($2.7M) is now believed to have been stolen from RetoSwap users in a recent exploit.

An attacker was both a counterparty and the mediator in large RetoSwap trades. This allowed him to steal $2.7 million by controlling 2 of the 3 keys.

In response trading was halted on this "decentralised" platform.
RetoSwap is Bisq fork right?
I think Bisq exchange was also exploited recently, but amount was much smaller, and I don't know if this cases are connected.
When RetoSwap first started I remember hearing people criticizing their security models with keys.
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Services that CANNOT halt swaps:
✅ BasicSwap
✅ eigenwallet
✅ RoboSats
Eigen wallet is really cool, but I hope they could soon add monero-bitcoin exchange in both directions.
I tried BasicSwap several times, but I doubt there is enough real liquidity there.
And last time I checked Robosats only works with lightning network, and I don't use that.
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Eigen wallet is really cool, but I hope they could soon add monero-bitcoin exchange in both directions.
I tried BasicSwap several times, but I doubt there is enough real liquidity there.
And last time I checked Robosats only works with lightning network, and I don't use that.
Potential vulnerability found in eigenwallet. Users urged to not use the software

This less than a week after an exploit in RetoSwap and days after one in OpenMonero

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Potential vulnerability found in eigenwallet. Users urged to not use the software

This less than a week after an exploit in RetoSwap and days after one in OpenMonero
Oh sh.t  
I've come to conclusion that anything that was posted online can be exploited or hacked, sooner or later.
Something is fishy here and I don't think this is just a coincidence, maybe ''someone'' is using AI tools to find bugs in all these software.
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Potential vulnerability found in eigenwallet. Users urged to not use the software

This less than a week after an exploit in RetoSwap and days after one in OpenMonero
Oh sh.t  
I've come to conclusion that anything that was posted online can be exploited or hacked, sooner or later.
Something is fishy here and I don't think this is just a coincidence, maybe ''someone'' is using AI tools to find bugs in all these software.
Even if the software is primarily made with AI tools, the existence of bugs is more than expected. 
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Oh sh.t  
I've come to conclusion that anything that was posted online can be exploited or hacked, sooner or later.
Something is fishy here and I don't think this is just a coincidence, maybe ''someone'' is using AI tools to find bugs in all these software.
There was actually talk regarding the use of AI tools to find vulnerabilities in software and exploit them. Apparently, the AI tools are getting so good, and some attacks that would take humans a lot of time to understand and exploit are just child's play with the use of AI.

I think software services might want to use the same AI tools to patch up any potential vulnerabilities before the attackers figure them out. That goes without saying, that there is always a bug waiting to be discovered or exploited in every system
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There was actually talk regarding the use of AI tools to find vulnerabilities in software and exploit them. Apparently, the AI tools are getting so good, and some attacks that would take humans a lot of time to understand and exploit are just child's play with the use of AI.

I think software services might want to use the same AI tools to patch up any potential vulnerabilities before the attackers figure them out. That goes without saying, that there is always a bug waiting to be discovered or exploited in every system

I don't really care.

If people can use AI to exploit vulnerabilities then we can use AI to patch them.

First, the obvious one - stop using Nodejs.

Then other obtuse and subtle vulnerabilities can be dealt with as noticed.

I have access to GPT-5.5 Cyber - I made a threat model with it for one of my projects and it's basically patching stuff by itself.

So if you ask me, I believe the zero-day market prices are definitely going to collapse, not because it won't be possible to exploit stuff anymore, but because the exploits will all be low-quality.
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How do you find the GPT Cyber? I was thinking of signing up for it also. In another note would it be possible to add my service https://bitswapnow.com to your site? Thanks!
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In another note would it be possible to add my service https://bitswapnow.com to your site? Thanks!
I got this from their frequently asked questions section

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How do I get listed on OrangeFren.com?
You can contact us using the links in the page's footer. We recommend using SimpleX or email.
This is their,
Email address: contact@orangefren.com
SimpleX: https://smp19.simplex.im/a#GGyZ5GyNTLi6Dh8i6J4mymcFMmILBLPdjGT2PTFHsrQ
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In another note would it be possible to add my service https://bitswapnow.com to your site? Thanks!
I got this from their frequently asked questions section

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How do I get listed on OrangeFren.com?
You can contact us using the links in the page's footer. We recommend using SimpleX or email.
This is their,
Email address: contact@orangefren.com
SimpleX: https://smp19.simplex.im/a#GGyZ5GyNTLi6Dh8i6J4mymcFMmILBLPdjGT2PTFHsrQ

Thanks Bitcoin_Arena!

If you want to get listed please shoot us an email
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How do you find the GPT Cyber? I was thinking of signing up for it also. In another note would it be possible to add my service https://bitswapnow.com to your site? Thanks!
As far as I know, it's a Changenow reseller.
I'm not sure how productive it is to have a CN reseller if it's also Changenow listed. You can't offer much new, except for additional complications in case there is a need to contact support
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However if you swapped via Edge wallet, Exodus, Monerujo, etc. then info about your swaps is freely available and you should assume has been compromised.

Link: https://www.rastersec.com/blog/exolix-swapper-dump

In other words, they know which wallet exchanged one asset for another, knowing that both belong to the same user. That's it.

It turns out I think I made a few moves in Exodus, but they were mostly tests and of low value. Either way, I will review ways to break these "connections".
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How do you find the GPT Cyber? I was thinking of signing up for it also. In another note would it be possible to add my service https://bitswapnow.com to your site? Thanks!

If you were actually referring to me (you mentioned GPT Cyber in your reply which is not in OP post) then contact me by Telegram or email.

Swaps done via OrangeFren.com, Intercambio.app or the Intercambio SimpleX bot are NOT affected.

How? Wouldn't that mean swaps you forward to Exolix would have your (proxy) address data on it? Or is it direct passthrough?
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Swaps done via OrangeFren.com, Intercambio.app or the Intercambio SimpleX bot are NOT affected.

How? Wouldn't that mean swaps you forward to Exolix would have your (proxy) address data on it? Or is it direct passthrough?
No. The issue was that those integrations of Exolix embedded the partner's API key in the integration and were opensource. We don't expose our API keys anywhere.
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We also partnered up with some of our best exchanges to offer the OrangeFren Guarantee - a security deposit provided to us by the exchanges to compensate our users in cases of disputes with the exchanges.
Question (some other case got me wondering): what if someone makes a trade, say this one:
Code:Your trade is partially (45%) protected against this service scamming you.In this hypothetical scenario, he gets scammed by the exchanger, and the exchanger that pulled the exit scam makes more victims who also claim part of the security deposit. What's the value of that 45% promise in this scenario?

I'd love to hear your input in Escrow funds to "guarantee a service": how to distribute funds after exit scam?
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