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[quote=Stedsm on May 14, 2021, 08:24:39 PM]
[quote=Haunebu on May 14, 2021, 07:57:17 PM]
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Trying to recover your losses is easily the most addictive form of gambling and it leads to the house earning consistently and the player losing consistently majority of the time.

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But while gambling, if I decide not to spend over $10-$20 per session and if I lose during that session, I won't gamble for a few days, a week or a month (depends on each gambler's choice), then I believe I'm far away from addiction and would never commit any mistakes that a highly addicted gambler would do once he loses his mind after losing in gambling.

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You are right, but you need to maintain that discipline and that is difficult. Most of the times, I foresee an amount that I am willing too loose and I don't chase my losses. But still some days, I keep on playing and placing riskier bets to recover my losses.
Only thing that helps with me, is to keep to a low balance.

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May 14, 2021 21:08

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Quote from: Stedsm on May 14, 2021, 08:24:39 PM
Quote from: Haunebu on May 14, 2021, 07:57:17 PM
--snip--
Trying to recover your losses is easily the most addictive form of gambling and it leads to the house earning consistently and the player losing consistently majority of the time.

But while gambling, if I decide not to spend over $10-$20 per session and if I lose during that session, I won't gamble for a few days, a week or a month (depends on each gambler's choice), then I believe I'm far away from addiction and would never commit any mistakes that a highly addicted gambler would do once he loses his mind after losing in gambling.

You are right, but you need to maintain that discipline and that is difficult. Most of the times, I foresee an amount that I am willing too loose and I don't chase my losses. But still some days, I keep on playing and placing riskier bets to recover my losses.
Only thing that helps with me, is to keep to a low balance.

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[quote=babygun on May 14, 2021, 09:08:14 PM]
[quote=Stedsm on May 14, 2021, 08:24:39 PM]
[quote=Haunebu on May 14, 2021, 07:57:17 PM]
--snip--
Trying to recover your losses is easily the most addictive form of gambling and it leads to the house earning consistently and the player losing consistently majority of the time.

[/quote]
But while gambling, if I decide not to spend over $10-$20 per session and if I lose during that session, I won't gamble for a few days, a week or a month (depends on each gambler's choice), then I believe I'm far away from addiction and would never commit any mistakes that a highly addicted gambler would do once he loses his mind after losing in gambling.

[/quote]
You are right, but you need to maintain that discipline and that is difficult. Most of the times, I foresee an amount that I am willing too loose and I don't chase my losses. But still some days, I keep on playing and placing riskier bets to recover my losses.
Only thing that helps with me, is to keep to a low balance.

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Sure thing as if you have much bigger balance and you have that attitude towards this activities, imagine how much you are willing to lose, or better to say, you'll going to lose.

Most of the time control only for those experienced gamblers who manage to manifest good things after suffering from long-term losses, you have to keep up your discipline but it's not as easy as you think of it right?

Chill and try to enjoy even most of the time you lose, if luck permits  you'll be able to win decent profits might be a jackpot or something that really gave you huge  wagered.

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May 14, 2021 21:17

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Quote from: babygun on May 14, 2021, 09:08:14 PM
Quote from: Stedsm on May 14, 2021, 08:24:39 PM
Quote from: Haunebu on May 14, 2021, 07:57:17 PM
--snip--
Trying to recover your losses is easily the most addictive form of gambling and it leads to the house earning consistently and the player losing consistently majority of the time.

But while gambling, if I decide not to spend over $10-$20 per session and if I lose during that session, I won't gamble for a few days, a week or a month (depends on each gambler's choice), then I believe I'm far away from addiction and would never commit any mistakes that a highly addicted gambler would do once he loses his mind after losing in gambling.

You are right, but you need to maintain that discipline and that is difficult. Most of the times, I foresee an amount that I am willing too loose and I don't chase my losses. But still some days, I keep on playing and placing riskier bets to recover my losses.
Only thing that helps with me, is to keep to a low balance.

Sure thing as if you have much bigger balance and you have that attitude towards this activities, imagine how much you are willing to lose, or better to say, you'll going to lose.

Most of the time control only for those experienced gamblers who manage to manifest good things after suffering from long-term losses, you have to keep up your discipline but it's not as easy as you think of it right?

Chill and try to enjoy even most of the time you lose, if luck permits you'll be able to win decent profits might be a jackpot or something that really gave you huge wagered.

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[quote=babygun on May 14, 2021, 09:08:14 PM]
You are right, but you need to maintain that discipline and that is difficult. Most of the times, I foresee an amount that I am willing too loose and I don't chase my losses. But still some days, I keep on playing and placing riskier bets to recover my losses.
Only thing that helps with me, is to keep to a low balance.

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That's correct as only I know how I stop myself and keep calm even if I lose only (including sportsbetting and casino bets) during a session. But the fact is, I never play with my RL money and only use some TRX from my saved stash for a specific month and never go over my budget so not to let my ego take over my mind.

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May 14, 2021 21:19

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Quote from: babygun on May 14, 2021, 09:08:14 PM
You are right, but you need to maintain that discipline and that is difficult. Most of the times, I foresee an amount that I am willing too loose and I don't chase my losses. But still some days, I keep on playing and placing riskier bets to recover my losses.
Only thing that helps with me, is to keep to a low balance.

That's correct as only I know how I stop myself and keep calm even if I lose only (including sportsbetting and casino bets) during a session. But the fact is, I never play with my RL money and only use some TRX from my saved stash for a specific month and never go over my budget so not to let my ego take over my mind.

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[quote=Stedsm on May 14, 2021, 08:24:39 PM]
[quote=Haunebu on May 14, 2021, 07:57:17 PM]
--snip--
Trying to recover your losses is easily the most addictive form of gambling and it leads to the house earning consistently and the player losing consistently majority of the time.

[/quote]
But while gambling, if I decide not to spend over $10-$20 per session and if I lose during that session, I won't gamble for a few days, a week or a month (depends on each gambler's choice), then I believe I'm far away from addiction and would never commit any mistakes that a highly addicted gambler would do once he loses his mind after losing in gambling.

[/quote]As long you dont itch or have that eagerness to play then you are really away or too far off with addiction but not all would really be having that kind of mindset
and this is where gambling business is profitable due to this behavior on most gamblers out there.

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May 14, 2021 22:23

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Quote from: Stedsm on May 14, 2021, 08:24:39 PM
Quote from: Haunebu on May 14, 2021, 07:57:17 PM
--snip--
Trying to recover your losses is easily the most addictive form of gambling and it leads to the house earning consistently and the player losing consistently majority of the time.

But while gambling, if I decide not to spend over $10-$20 per session and if I lose during that session, I won't gamble for a few days, a week or a month (depends on each gambler's choice), then I believe I'm far away from addiction and would never commit any mistakes that a highly addicted gambler would do once he loses his mind after losing in gambling.

As long you dont itch or have that eagerness to play then you are really away or too far off with addiction but not all would really be having that kind of mindset
and this is where gambling business is profitable due to this behavior on most gamblers out there.

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[quote=ryzaadit on May 13, 2021, 06:55:46 PM]
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[/quote]No, I well remember that I never activated 2FA before. Perhaps the most appropriate solution at this time is to contact the support team to resolve the problem. For all, thank you all for your answers, most helpful.

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May 15, 2021 02:38

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Quote from: ryzaadit on May 13, 2021, 06:55:46 PM
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No, I well remember that I never activated 2FA before. Perhaps the most appropriate solution at this time is to contact the support team to resolve the problem. For all, thank you all for your answers, most helpful.

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Before start playing ive read mostly the rules and the FAQ of the different gambling platforms, I want to try on and I saw the withdrawal requirement of the rollbit. Also for other future players who would like to play too that they have this kind of rule for their users if you want to withdraw your funds. I don't have any problem with this because it's their own rule if you don't want to agree with it they cant do it's your choice. 

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May 15, 2021 05:07

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Before start playing ive read mostly the rules and the FAQ of the different gambling platforms, I want to try on and I saw the withdrawal requirement of the rollbit. Also for other future players who would like to play too that they have this kind of rule for their users if you want to withdraw your funds. I don't have any problem with this because it's their own rule if you don't want to agree with it they cant do it's your choice.

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[quote=Stedsm on May 14, 2021, 08:24:39 PM]
[quote=Haunebu on May 14, 2021, 07:57:17 PM]
--snip--
Trying to recover your losses is easily the most addictive form of gambling and it leads to the house earning consistently and the player losing consistently majority of the time.

[/quote]
But while gambling, if I decide not to spend over $10-$20 per session and if I lose during that session, I won't gamble for a few days, a week or a month (depends on each gambler's choice), then I believe I'm far away from addiction and would never commit any mistakes that a highly addicted gambler would do once he loses his mind after losing in gambling.

[/quote]Since you have control over the amounts you are gambling, I don't think you should be too concerned about being addicted. And recovering losses is not being addicted because even traders try and recover their loss, nothing wrong with that. Recovery becomes an addiction when you are taking loans to recover your losses or depositing more than you decided to bet.

As long as you are recovering from your planned deposits I don't think it is any problem and in fact, recovering losses is a fun thing. I mean you get a goal that you are trying to reach rather than gambling ruhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1268718.msg56986520#msg56986520thlessly without knowing when to stop. I also lose money and I recover them sometimes while other times I end up losing more but I am more than happy with my gambling because what I am spending is well within my limits.

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May 15, 2021 06:47

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Quote from: Stedsm on May 14, 2021, 08:24:39 PM
Quote from: Haunebu on May 14, 2021, 07:57:17 PM
--snip--
Trying to recover your losses is easily the most addictive form of gambling and it leads to the house earning consistently and the player losing consistently majority of the time.

But while gambling, if I decide not to spend over $10-$20 per session and if I lose during that session, I won't gamble for a few days, a week or a month (depends on each gambler's choice), then I believe I'm far away from addiction and would never commit any mistakes that a highly addicted gambler would do once he loses his mind after losing in gambling.

Since you have control over the amounts you are gambling, I don't think you should be too concerned about being addicted. And recovering losses is not being addicted because even traders try and recover their loss, nothing wrong with that. Recovery becomes an addiction when you are taking loans to recover your losses or depositing more than you decided to bet.

As long as you are recovering from your planned deposits I don't think it is any problem and in fact, recovering losses is a fun thing. I mean you get a goal that you are trying to reach rather than gambling ruhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1268718.msg56986520#msg56986520thlessly without knowing when to stop. I also lose money and I recover them sometimes while other times I end up losing more but I am more than happy with my gambling because what I am spending is well within my limits.

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[quote=Peanutswar on May 15, 2021, 05:07:49 AM]
Before start playing ive read mostly the rules and the FAQ of the different gambling platforms, I want to try on and I saw the withdrawal requirement of the rollbit. Also for other future players who would like to play too that they have this kind of rule for their users if you want to withdraw your funds. I don't have any problem with this because it's their own rule if you don't want to agree with it they cant do it's your choice. 

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[/quote]Players should read carefully the FAQ I'm agree with this, so  if there are requirements that are difficult to meet, players can discourage making a deposit and playing there.
Regarding the requirements in Rollbit to make withdrawal it's not difficult, my experience with only a $20 deposit to reach a total wager of $100 is very easy to achieve, I'm playing slot there.

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May 15, 2021 07:37

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Quote from: Peanutswar on May 15, 2021, 05:07:49 AM
Before start playing ive read mostly the rules and the FAQ of the different gambling platforms, I want to try on and I saw the withdrawal requirement of the rollbit. Also for other future players who would like to play too that they have this kind of rule for their users if you want to withdraw your funds. I don't have any problem with this because it's their own rule if you don't want to agree with it they cant do it's your choice.

Players should read carefully the FAQ I'm agree with this, so if there are requirements that are difficult to meet, players can discourage making a deposit and playing there.
Regarding the requirements in Rollbit to make withdrawal it's not difficult, my experience with only a $20 deposit to reach a total wager of $100 is very easy to achieve, I'm playing slot there.

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[quote=Peanutswar on May 15, 2021, 05:07:49 AM]
Before start playing ive read mostly the rules and the FAQ of the different gambling platforms, I want to try on and I saw the withdrawal requirement of the rollbit. Also for other future players who would like to play too that they have this kind of rule for their users if you want to withdraw your funds. I don't have any problem with this because it's their own rule if you don't want to agree with it they cant do it's your choice. 

[img]https://i.imgur.com/kKAUfba.png[/img]

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Yeah, I saw this FAQ when I was about to make the video review of the Rollbit. I think this is going to be one of important point to be noted while doing any sort of review for the rollbit and top of that many users do not want such Terms as they find it as loss for themselves. 

For middle gambler, achieving 100 USD wager is like loosing those 100 bucks in the process. 

Though it is their choice, one should note that there are always various options over the internet, so as user Rollbit must think about removing that wagering requirement. Definitely they will loose many gamblers for restricted conditions like this.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on May 15, 2021, 05:07:49 AM
Before start playing ive read mostly the rules and the FAQ of the different gambling platforms, I want to try on and I saw the withdrawal requirement of the rollbit. Also for other future players who would like to play too that they have this kind of rule for their users if you want to withdraw your funds. I don't have any problem with this because it's their own rule if you don't want to agree with it they cant do it's your choice.

Yeah, I saw this FAQ when I was about to make the video review of the Rollbit. I think this is going to be one of important point to be noted while doing any sort of review for the rollbit and top of that many users do not want such Terms as they find it as loss for themselves.

For middle gambler, achieving 100 USD wager is like loosing those 100 bucks in the process.

Though it is their choice, one should note that there are always various options over the internet, so as user Rollbit must think about removing that wagering requirement. Definitely they will loose many gamblers for restricted conditions like this.

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[quote=so98nn on May 15, 2021, 07:43:02 AM]
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For middle gambler, achieving 100 USD wager is like loosing those 100 bucks in the process. 

[/quote]^ Why they are losing? That means to win or lose they should require to wager before they will able to withdraw. What if they wagered 100 USD and they won? I understand what the terms are because I have heard that most commonly gambling platforms used by other users to clean their coin, just like they are using a mixer or a conjoin wallet that will never traceable the transaction after depositing to the gambling site. Nevertheless, it should be advisable to gamblers that should always read the TOS before using the site.

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May 15, 2021 07:55

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Quote from: so98nn on May 15, 2021, 07:43:02 AM
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For middle gambler, achieving 100 USD wager is like loosing those 100 bucks in the process.

^ Why they are losing? That means to win or lose they should require to wager before they will able to withdraw. What if they wagered 100 USD and they won? I understand what the terms are because I have heard that most commonly gambling platforms used by other users to clean their coin, just like they are using a mixer or a conjoin wallet that will never traceable the transaction after depositing to the gambling site. Nevertheless, it should be advisable to gamblers that should always read the TOS before using the site.

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[quote=Peanutswar on May 15, 2021, 05:07:49 AM]
Before start playing ive read mostly the rules and the FAQ of the different gambling platforms, I want to try on and I saw the withdrawal requirement of the rollbit. Also for other future players who would like to play too that they have this kind of rule for their users if you want to withdraw your funds. I don't have any problem with this because it's their own rule if you don't want to agree with it they cant do it's your choice. 

[img]https://i.imgur.com/kKAUfba.png[/img]

[/quote]I think this is now a normal procedure for the gambling site that don't wanna be use for abusing from those accounts that only use their gambling site as Exchange.

because from the past , there are users that hides their transactions sending in exchange and then withdraw to another wallet and they are already safe and Hidden.

For me we can't blame gambling site when they have this rules because if you are aware of gambling site position they requiring players to at least prove their legitimacy as "REAL PLAYER" and not just using their platform for their own abusing.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on May 15, 2021, 05:07:49 AM
Before start playing ive read mostly the rules and the FAQ of the different gambling platforms, I want to try on and I saw the withdrawal requirement of the rollbit. Also for other future players who would like to play too that they have this kind of rule for their users if you want to withdraw your funds. I don't have any problem with this because it's their own rule if you don't want to agree with it they cant do it's your choice.

I think this is now a normal procedure for the gambling site that don't wanna be use for abusing from those accounts that only use their gambling site as Exchange.

because from the past , there are users that hides their transactions sending in exchange and then withdraw to another wallet and they are already safe and Hidden.

For me we can't blame gambling site when they have this rules because if you are aware of gambling site position they requiring players to at least prove their legitimacy as "REAL PLAYER" and not just using their platform for their own abusing.

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[quote=so98nn on May 15, 2021, 07:43:02 AM]
For middle gambler, achieving 100 USD wager is like loosing those 100 bucks in the process. 

Though it is their choice, one should note that there are always various options over the internet, so as user Rollbit must think about removing that wagering requirement. Definitely they will loose many gamblers for restricted conditions like this. 

[/quote]I disagree completely. Depositing $10 is easy and wagering $100 is easy too as long as you smartly wager your amount by minimizing your losses(1.01 betting, Betting on both the banker and player in Baccarat etc).

This is a necessary condition to help filter out launderers as DoublerHunter mentioned above. Most crypto casinos out there follow similar rules for the same reason.

Best part about wagering in crypto gambling sites is the ability to wager with miniscule amounts like 1 sat which adds up quickly.

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May 15, 2021 08:16

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Quote from: so98nn on May 15, 2021, 07:43:02 AM
For middle gambler, achieving 100 USD wager is like loosing those 100 bucks in the process.

Though it is their choice, one should note that there are always various options over the internet, so as user Rollbit must think about removing that wagering requirement. Definitely they will loose many gamblers for restricted conditions like this.

I disagree completely. Depositing $10 is easy and wagering $100 is easy too as long as you smartly wager your amount by minimizing your losses(1.01 betting, Betting on both the banker and player in Baccarat etc).

This is a necessary condition to help filter out launderers as DoublerHunter mentioned above. Most crypto casinos out there follow similar rules for the same reason.

Best part about wagering in crypto gambling sites is the ability to wager with miniscule amounts like 1 sat which adds up quickly.

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[quote=bitterguy28 on May 15, 2021, 08:01:09 AM]

I think this is now a normal procedure for the gambling site that don't wanna be use for abusing from those accounts that only use their gambling site as Exchange.

because from the past , there are users that hides their transactions sending in exchange and then withdraw to another wallet and they are already safe and Hidden.

For me we can't blame gambling site when they have this rules because if you are aware of gambling site position they requiring players to at least prove their legitimacy as "REAL PLAYER" and not just using their platform for their own abusing.

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Usually the abusers are those that deposit through fiat and withdraw in crypto, followed by filing a chargeback. They are the ones that are a pain to deal with.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on May 15, 2021, 08:01:09 AM
I think this is now a normal procedure for the gambling site that don't wanna be use for abusing from those accounts that only use their gambling site as Exchange.

because from the past , there are users that hides their transactions sending in exchange and then withdraw to another wallet and they are already safe and Hidden.

For me we can't blame gambling site when they have this rules because if you are aware of gambling site position they requiring players to at least prove their legitimacy as "REAL PLAYER" and not just using their platform for their own abusing.

Usually the abusers are those that deposit through fiat and withdraw in crypto, followed by filing a chargeback. They are the ones that are a pain to deal with.

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[quote=Peanutswar on May 15, 2021, 05:07:49 AM]
Before start playing ive read mostly the rules and the FAQ of the different gambling platforms, I want to try on and I saw the withdrawal requirement of the rollbit. Also for other future players who would like to play too that they have this kind of rule for their users if you want to withdraw your funds. I don't have any problem with this because it's their own rule if you don't want to agree with it they cant do it's your choice. 

[img]https://i.imgur.com/kKAUfba.png[/img]

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I already know few gambling sites where they want you to deposit some money before you can cash out, but they don't have any wagering requirement. 
Although wagering 100$ is not that much, because you have deposited in the gambling site to gamble for sure but i don't understand what benefit the gambling site get from such requirements. If the intend is to stop money laundering, they can still do that after wagering ?

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Quote from: Peanutswar on May 15, 2021, 05:07:49 AM
Before start playing ive read mostly the rules and the FAQ of the different gambling platforms, I want to try on and I saw the withdrawal requirement of the rollbit. Also for other future players who would like to play too that they have this kind of rule for their users if you want to withdraw your funds. I don't have any problem with this because it's their own rule if you don't want to agree with it they cant do it's your choice.

I already know few gambling sites where they want you to deposit some money before you can cash out, but they don't have any wagering requirement.
Although wagering 100$ is not that much, because you have deposited in the gambling site to gamble for sure but i don't understand what benefit the gambling site get from such requirements. If the intend is to stop money laundering, they can still do that after wagering ?

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[quote=Peanutswar on May 15, 2021, 05:07:49 AM]
Before start playing ive read mostly the rules and the FAQ of the different gambling platforms, I want to try on and I saw the withdrawal requirement of the rollbit. Also for other future players who would like to play too that they have this kind of rule for their users if you want to withdraw your funds. I don't have any problem with this because it's their own rule if you don't want to agree with it they cant do it's your choice. 

[img]https://i.imgur.com/kKAUfba.png[/img]

[/quote]I already know few gambling sites where they want you to deposit some money before you can cash out, but they don't have any wagering requirement. 
Although wagering 100$ is not that much, because you have deposited in the gambling site to gamble for sure but i don't understand what benefit the gambling site get from such requirements. If the intend is to stop money laundering, they can still do that after wagering?

[/quote]I think this is normal and $100 in gambling is a small thing and of course, Rollbit applies rules like this, of course, you don't want anyone to abuse the new account so that's natural I think I've passed and now enjoy what results in you get from betting here.
Peanutswar if you want to start then play here I already feel the game here now x-roulette is a bet that I like right now.
Some slots are partially saturated in x-roulette.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on May 15, 2021, 10:36:54 AM
Quote from: Peanutswar on May 15, 2021, 05:07:49 AM
Before start playing ive read mostly the rules and the FAQ of the different gambling platforms, I want to try on and I saw the withdrawal requirement of the rollbit. Also for other future players who would like to play too that they have this kind of rule for their users if you want to withdraw your funds. I don't have any problem with this because it's their own rule if you don't want to agree with it they cant do it's your choice.

I already know few gambling sites where they want you to deposit some money before you can cash out, but they don't have any wagering requirement.
Although wagering 100$ is not that much, because you have deposited in the gambling site to gamble for sure but i don't understand what benefit the gambling site get from such requirements. If the intend is to stop money laundering, they can still do that after wagering?

I think this is normal and $100 in gambling is a small thing and of course, Rollbit applies rules like this, of course, you don't want anyone to abuse the new account so that's natural I think I've passed and now enjoy what results in you get from betting here.
Peanutswar if you want to start then play here I already feel the game here now x-roulette is a bet that I like right now.
Some slots are partially saturated in x-roulette.

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